Ellis Henderson, Odin Coe, Nolan LaValley, Karl Graves Represent GSHL on WashingtonPreps.com Washington 2011 Prospect Ranking
Written by Bryan Levesque on July 14, 2010
Kalr Graves #6 and Ellis Henderson #7 of Skyview are among the top football players in the state.
Dirk Knudsen of WashingtonPreps.com just released the top 60 Washington football players for the class of 2011, and the Greater St. Helens League has 4 listed in the top 41.
Skyview’s Ellis Henderson (ATH) tops the list of GSHL kids at #11, followed by Odin Coe (DL) of Camas at #18, Nolan LaValley (OL) of Heritage at #37 and Karl Graves (WR) also from Skyview at #41.
- Ellis Henderson – “Air Force, Boise State, Eastern Washington, Idaho, Hawaii and moving in on Ellis. Holds Air Force, Wyoming, Hawaii, New Mexico State, and Portland State Offers. Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, UCLA, Washington, Washington State. Once he starts playing he could skyrocket.”
- Odin Coe – “Coe has been tearing up the camps and combines. At 255 and 6’3″ he is just too strong and fast off the ball. Leaning towards D’tackle or Strong side DE right now. Coe is the linemen to watch as teams are moving in.”
- Nolan LaValley – “Work Horse linemen with some excellent skills. He can play college ball as a Center/Guard and his attitude and effort are obvious wherever he goes.”
- Karl Graves – “No One has better hands in State then Big Karl. He is a sleeper and seems to sort of hang in the background but that changes when the helmets go on!”
Top 10
1 – Austin Seferian-Jenkins TE Gig Harbor
2 – Kasen Williams WR Skyline
3 – Charlie Hopkins DE Gonzaga Prep
4 – Danny Shelton DT Auburn
5 – Taniela Tupou DE Archbishop Murphy
6 – Bishop Sankey RB Gonzaga Prep
7 – Rahmel Dockery ATH Curtis
8 – Connor Cree DE Skyline
9 – Max Hersey TE Curtis
10 – Jamaal Jones WR Graham-Kapowsin
You can see the full list as well as read comments on all ranked players at WashingtonPreps.com.
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Nice work guys! Represent the GSHL. I am curious… Where the heck is Addison Owen at ????
yeah go skyview!!
yeah where is addison??? he is a pac 10 prospect he should be in there
Isn’t this preseason stuff? Because if it is for just the preseason then this makes since. Also if you didn’t notice all of the top players are from the North with one guy from GP. Its bias man. Sucks.
very interesting.. actually, very dumb
this list is a joke.. not to put down dirk knudsen (great guy)
but this list is just an example of how rivals.com has no idea how to evaluate talent or rank players outside of the top 5 at each position in the country.
where is zak browning?.. no doubt will be the best player in the gshl next year. the kid started for a 2 time state contending team and excelled. how is he not on here? its not like he was on a lousy team and got lost..
oden coe? first, combines dont mean ANYTHING. this kid is recieving some of what i think is some undeserving hype. didnt see him do much at all last year. hope you prove me wrong though.
karl graves.. pretty good. i think hes around the same level as addision owen who i do believe deserves to be on the list even though camas is nothing but a bunch of soccer players with shoulder pads..
nolan lavalley.. im not even going to comment on this one.. again, i hope you prove me wrong kid..
why did i say browning will be the best player in the gshl next year and not ellis? explosion. yes i know ellis runs a 4.5 but that doesnt have much to do with explosion. perhaps i should use the word burst instead of explosion. dont see much of it out of ellis when he cuts and accelerates.. browning sure as hell doesnt lack in that department. and thats not all that made up my decision. i just think browning is a better football player. not taking away from ellis i still think the kid is a stud
Well Zak, you heard it you are the best bar none, I expect you too play both ways along with special teams, because you are the Best everyone else is second or worse, no one is equal to you in Clark County.
Touchet I guarantee you that Zak did not type that. The kid is the most polite and hardest working kid you ever met. If someone said what Wow typed above to his face, Zak would just have an “awe schuck” reaction and smile and politely disagree. Yes, he is a great football player too, but a better kid.
To those wondering about how rivals and scout rank kids and college recruiting??? Its pretty simple, market. Most of the big town colleges are in the top and the same for the big town hs players. Most are from up north where they will sell more magazines.
It seems that Union, Camas and Skyview are the only schools in the GSHL, at least from all the comments here. There was a time , not too long ago, that Evergreen and Mountain View ruled SW Washington sports. A lot has changed in the last few years. Football is an excellent indicator on how a schools sports program is going to fare. Union , Camas and Skyview have done a terrific job at creating enthusiasm , a can win attitute and have given athletes that other coaches would have overlooked an opportunity to play. Unfortunately, most coaches have their own “philosophy” which at times has nothing to do with playing or winning – after football is a game – kids like winning – winning breeds success – success breeds success.
Wow….These rankings are to help athletes get RECRUITED! Its not a list of top players, its a list of top RECRUITS, I havent heard of anything zak browning has done as far as college recruiting or if he even wants to. What’s the point of putting a player in this list who is doing nothing to be recruited. Again its a list of COLLEGE RECRUITS, not normal players!!!
And also, I’m not down playing Zak. Getting All-Region is not an easy thing to get and you have to be very good for those honors. But as far as your comment on coe, “not doing anything last year” I guess getting All-Region means nothing in his case and at combines they dont just test athleticism they have one-on-ones to test them as an actual FOOTBALL PLAYER and he tore them up. Research before you comment.
Coe is legit. Know what your talking about before you question. All-Region is not just handed out to kids that pass the eye test. There has to be performance that backs those honors.
You know, all these guys are legit. Please dont be haters and disrespect them!
guys, I have spent 42 years either coaching, officiating or playing football…I’ve had the pleasure to be around Odin Coe, Addison Owen and some kid named
Logan Grindy …I’ve heard what coaches Mike Riley, Steve Sarkisian (sp) and Kelly have said about each of these three…if they aren’t special football players..there aren’t any….all will play on Saturdays…Don’t worry about pre season hype….this crop will rise to the top…Mr. Henderson is simply an incredible athlete/football player…simpy a game changer..lets find someone in Washington who can catch him from behind…good luck…Mr Graves needs to hit the light switch..when he does..fun to watch…this will be the year either a 4A or 3A team brings another state championship to Clark County…these teams are that good…as good as any I’ve seen EVER and that includes Evergreens Championship team…
A couple of these guys have been under the radar this summer, but you better believe they will be ready to go in Sept.
hard hitter.. best teams youve ever seen from clark county? what are you basing that on? camp? thats just a stupid statement. There are plenty of teams that are good on paper, but it takes depth to win a state championshitp
why does everyone have to be negative on this site. why cant you just go along with what hard hitter has to say and trust that his knowledge is right instead of contradicting it
It sounds like he’s basing it on 42 years of experience in football.
I agree, Wish this site could just be about how great our area is instead of bashing each other and letting the rest of the state continuing to get the press!!
Mr San;
I’m pretty sure you are an expert in football, have 42 plus years experience and went to all the spring football practices, plus all the camps…I’m pretty sure you played D1 football and played some pro in Europe…have coached and officiated high school, college and have seen as many of these players that I have…since they were about 12…..This will be one of the strongest football seasons in Clark County that this county has ever seen…Skyview, Union, Camas, Evergreen, are all tier one football teams this year…Camas is as good as I’ve EVER seen…Skyview gets it QB in shape and they will dominate…they have a running back no one is talking about…simply a monster…just watch…Evergreen is flat good..their coach is all about discipline…Not the Smythe type either…Union brings back a solid group that know how to do one thing…WIN…..So I’m sure your
vast experience and background can bring us up to speed on how CC will do this year…by the way when was the last time you talked with Kelly and Riley?….
Hard hitter…
If you have been watching these kids since they were 12 then you would have mentioned Heritage as well so I question how well you know ALL of the local players but I’m sure you know many.
I will agree that Skyview is the cream of the crop and Parker is quite good, (been watching him run since the 4th grade), but there are several backs in the district with qualifications and skills that could make them the “best” back in 3A or 4A. I echo your sediment that this years league will be very competitive and even for the most part. I’m not sure why you mention “The Smythe Type” in your thread but while his team underachieved based on talent they had, I recall them winning a district title his first year then went .500, no? Maybe with an experienced QB they could have done more but oh well, let it go. The guy has 600+ high school football victories and 40+ years coaching experience, no reason to judge him unless you were a part of those 2 years and didn’t speak up.
Based on your previous post it sounds like your ties are to Camas and you should be excited about the possibilities this year as they will be very good. I can only hope this area produces another STATE representative and makes the GSHL proud! I”m guess what I am saying is it does not take 42 years of experience with football regardless of coaching/college/Europe to be a very good evaluator or to recognize talent. Also, EHS actually WON a state title and went undefeated so that does make them BETTER than the recent Camas or Skyview team hard hitter, just say’n!
Good Luck to ALL our GSHL teams in 2010.
I just want to say evergreen won state under coach Piland an he is at union, no wonder union knows how to win all the time but I’m just satin.
Kids win championships, not coaches! Would Fort, Bay or Prairie won a state title in the last 10 years if Piland was their coach? No way!! Good kids make a good coach look great, not so good kids make the same coach look like he does not know a thing. Piland and his staff have had a great combination, as well as Kiser and Eagle.
I think what makes this year interesting is the overall talent in the area is on the rise and will make for a competitive league schedule. And by the looks of it, everyone has stepped up their non-league schedule in preparation for the post season.
In my positive attempt for this site, Can everyone list their top players for next year and a little bio about them? Maybe Bryan could come up with a pre-season All-League list??
I love the idea Let Get Along!! That is a great Idea and it would be perfect for these little debates people are having. Kudos!
As a Heritage Fan, I know we have some good skill kids steping in to starting roles, a New D-Coordinator, some much imporved talent and depth on the Defense, a young group of RB’s, 2 capable QB’s fighting for the starting job, and a Senior O-Line who all started last year.
They all have a lot to prove before anyone considers them Heritage a contender, but the athletes are there to make a statement.
Sorry, Terry Twolf, but Heritage has been trying to make a statement the last 3 seasons. The Shriner Game, which had the best seniors and with an absolutely loaded offense proved the inadequacies of that offense. No running game, no ball control. The results won’t change. BTW, the d-coordinator is from Prairie, so gimme a break. HHS had the same d-coordinator the last 3 years. All playoff years.
Let me dissect your Post:
1. Did I misread your Name or are you confused as to which Name you are using for your posts? Shame on you for claiming to be an HHS Fan and putting them down.
2. Did you read my previous post about players making the coaches look good or bad, not the other way around?
3. One week with a group of players who have never played together much less trying to learn a new offense is not a likely recipe for success.
4. Try watching the video of the Shriner’s game again, Blake Russell, Garrett Grayson, and The BG kid pretty much put the game away in the second half with the running game!
5. The Heritage D has been near the bottom of the GSHL 3A/4A the last 3 years, so a change can’t make them any worse.
6. Finally, as I Previously stated, They have a lot to prove to be considered a contender, and I will say it one more time for you, “A LOT TO PROVE”.
Thanks, but I don’t think we need your support HHS Fan! Glad my plan for being positive made it almost one whole day!!
TWolf, are you Let Get along too? And HHS Fan, are you Fox? You have made some comments in the past that sound a little self promoted.
Buddy, I think YOU used the wrong name for your post. So you’re Terry Twolf AND Lets Get Along! Okay, sorry. I’ll do my best to keep up with your identities. As far as me being a Heritage fan, I truly am, which is why I chose to make the points I made. Last season’s East team scored how many points? How much time did they have to prepare? Thought so. Reread statement number 2 in your Terry Twolf post and reread your entire Lets Get Along post. I am proud of what Heritage has done since my time there and the time my little brother was there, but a step forward needs to be made. They were 7-3, 5-5, then 4-6 in the last three years. Those are the facts. I’m a fan, but I am a realist also.
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So if the players make the team why didnt the team with kyrell and james monk and ashton and bobby win state because that had to of been the most athletic team clark county has ever seen. I would be willing to bet money that Piland could at least get the likes of bay and fort to compete and not get blown out every game. Piland is a very good coach. No team and no player can make a team be good year after year after year. the coaches stay around a lot longer then the players do.
My point was you have to have the Players to win Championships. Yes a coach will make a team competetive, and there are several competetive programs in the area that don’t win championships. Players (with good attitudes and work ethics) combined with good coaching are going to win. Great athletes don’t equal great players/teamates, i.e. Kyrell and Monk (stealing from a teamate and getting suspended). Would that happen if Piland was there?
Sharkey is the best example. .500 at BG, goes to Ferris and is in the Semi-Finals then Championship game. Did he all of a sudden become a better coach or have better players?
MVHS Athlete, What you just don’t get is that you take magnet programs (disguised as open enrollment in VSD) and put them in Evergreen schools, for example the ELL Magnet program that Fort has, and put it at Union, you would not see them be that competitive even if Vince Lombardi was coaching them. It is a travesty that parents should be up in arms about, but nobody seems to care. So what you have is a typical starting 11 at most schools that can compete with anyone, but no depth at the Fort’s and Bay’s. They can compete with each other and Prairie every year, but go against teams that have depth and it gets bad. One or two injuries, or illnesses and it’s over. A perfect example was the Fort/River game last year, a game that was 13-10 at halftime, but River’s depth took over and Fort kids got tired and started fumbling and made special teams mistakes, and it ended up a wider margin. Once in a while a special class comes around and they have success, but it is rarely long lived. This is what has been happening at least the last 10-15 years and it is only getting worse. I think you would be amazed at the talent of head coaches in SW Washington, just not the depth of athletes at each school. Now, you make every kid go to his neighborhood school like in the old days, you would see who the best coaches are, and it would be very close! Why didn’t Piland apply at Fort in 2007 instead of going to Union? He knew all these facts well and understood. I admire Woodward who left MVHS when they were winning to try to make Bay successful, and was almost .500 when he left for what I understand were family reasons. He tried, but still wasn’t as competitive as what most would expect. The reasons stated above do have a lot of merit on this subject.
I played high school sports the last four years. And i understand exactly where you are coming from. I have played against fort and bay in other sports not just football and the athletic pool at those schools isnt very good. I understand that. And yes clark county would be a lot closer all around if we all went to the high school we went to…but that is a give and take situation because…and i am not saying that it is right…but we wouldnt be as good when it comes to state wide competition. Also I might have read the comment wrong. I think that the team that i mentioned above would be amazing if Piland was the coach there. Battle ground is not too good of an example though because half of the schools population isnt able to play any sports anyways, so they are already lacking in depth there. So Sharkey just went from a team of lets say 50 freshmen to senior to a team with 120 or so freshmen to seniors. big difference. And Kyrell was an amazing player i mean what did he score like 15 td’s his junior year and got an offer to play at osu on scholarship…that sort of talent doesnt come around everyday. So yes you need a combination of good coaching and good players. but if you have bad coaching and amazing players the system doesnt work out and the team doesnt succeed
MVHS Athlete I agree with you about Piland at Evergreen when Kyrell was there. His approach would probably have been much better than the laid back approach that Smythe brought in for 2 years. That is not to say Smythe isn’t a good coach (his history of success proves he is), he just probably wasn’t the right coach at Evergreen. I do believe Anthony will do a good job there and fits in well with the kids. Piland also has a great staff of coaches assembled that really help out at Union too. Fort, Bay and as you say, Battle Ground have different approaches because they battle to find the 60 to 70 athletes in the school to try to field 3 teams in football. I thought BG did a good job last year until injuries and lack of depth hurt them. They almost beat Camas! Fort and Bay play with 2A numbers in their programs at the 3A level. While they just lost Union, it gets tougher with Kelso and Mt. View moving down. Add Camas and River, it makes it a battle for 3 playoff spots. I feel bad for BG at 4A with only 2 playoff spots and battling Skyview, Union, Heritage and Evergreen.
Reading this thread is making me a little concerned. First, Coaching is half of a teams success, Players make up the other half. If my math is right, that equals a whole. Lacking on either side is going to make for varying levels of success. It is never one sided on the success or failures of a program, both halves have to be fully committed.
HHS Fan, T-Wolf, Lets Get Along: Get a room and hash out you differences. You all make good points, but HHS Fan should change your name if you are going to bash your old school. And I disagree with you on the Shriner Game Post. T-Wolf had it right in that 1 week with kids from different programs is not enough time to install an offense as sophisticated as the one a Heritage. If you played there, you shoulod remember that they run a lot of stuff from a lot of formations. Skyview, Union, Evergreen, Fort all run simple systems. But I do recall that the West only scored once, and the East did win the game! Is the W more important than the stats?
You’re right. I’m Coach Fox. LOL. I am not bashing my old school. Not at all, so I’m sorry if it sounds that way. I’m just saying that they have not made progress from that 7-3 season. Again I am trying to be realistic here. I am curious to see what happens now that they’ve lost Garrett. I actually think they’ll do better because the other 10 guys on offense are not standing there watching him! Dude, I know what Heritage runs. Spread and trips are NOT a lot of formations. Sophisticated? Please. You have the best and brightest out there. Again I will restate my question: how many points were scored by the East last season, how much time did they have to prepare? I think those are fair questions and the lack of progression from year to year is a fair statement from a non-fanatical observation. I think you need to study the game more and truly watch what Skyview, Union, Evergreen, and Fort actually do. Maybe the fact that Skyview and Union are deep playoff teams with their “simple” systems is saying something. Less is more?
HHS Fan, I can’t believe I have to argue with you about this but do your research!
Heritage over the last 3 years:
2007,7-3 with a great senior class and a weak schedule. Loses to River and Evergreen (both playoff teams) and qualifier loss to Woodinville.
2008, 5-5 with an average senior class that did not continue on the previous classes work ethic. Team deals with a coach’s death early in the season, but manage to recover for a GSHL 4A Co-Championship with Skyview. All 5 losses were again to playoff teams, and again losing to Woodinville in the qualifier.
2009, 4-6 with the worst senior class in 3 years. Again 5 of 6 losses to playoff teams, but still finds themselves in position to win a league championship in week 9 only to come up short against Skyview. Third consecutive trip to the post season.
Isn’t playing for a League championship and getting into the playoffs the goal for every team? Heritage is doing everything they can to make the next step by playing a tough schedule year after year. Until they can beat the playoff teams on their schedule, they will continue to average around .500. Senior classes are what make the difference.
Trapper fan I agree with a lot of your posts, another factor with Bay and Fort is not only low turnouts and then having to field three teams, but the amount of kids having to play both ways in order to stay in the game or prevent a blowout, come the 2nd half kids just wear down and the drop off for depth is large, also the amount of kids held out of games through out the season due to grades, violation of team rules etc, etc, unfortuntaly these things are a regular occurence for Bay and Fort, my son played 4 yrs at Bay so I have an understanding of what takes place. I thought Woodward gave Bay a shot in the arm that it needed, they had some good skilled position players, but offensive and defensive lines were always a liabilty, they just didn’t have enough kids commited to off season workouts, that makes a difference. Was really soory to see him leave Bay, and they have suffered since. Sorry about all the disscussion about Fort and Bay I know most of you could care less, we can get back to discussing Camas and Union. Sorry but I still believe the Big Nine Conference is best in state top to bottom.
I would like to say that Union and Skyview probly run the most complex offenses in the area and that Heritage runs 80% of their plays through two formations. thats shouldnt be too difficult to learn. I mean i pretty much had our offense down in a week or so and ours is more complex than that. And yes BG did almost beat camas. they did beat river as well. But like i have said in other posts they are not going to go anywhere ever unless they are able to play a whole season. I wonder what the outcome of the GSHL would be if we turned it into a 3a/4a 12 team conference. Got anything?
MVHS – I disagree with you on the most complex offenses… After watching Evergreens new system, I am still confused at where the ball is going every play. The only thing I know is that the ball is moving forward..
HHS Fan, You’re an idiot! The East scored enough points to win! And regardless of which offense they ran with the best players, they were playing aginast the best from the west side, the game should be close!
In my experience as a former player and former coach the past 40 years, every offense is sophisticated, wing-t to spread. There isn’t one around that can be mastered in a week of practice, which is what the shrine game allows. And those practices are pretty low key and don’t allow coaches the time for palybooks and video study whaich any team really needs to be good.
T-Wolf, you did your homework. Heritage has been a top team the last few years, but until they beat a Camas, Union, Skyview, they won’t get respect!
One final note, stop naming coaches and bashing them. If you are a coach on here, you should be ashamed!!
Old dog nailed it-
Lets face it the schools with the money and large turnout have the advantage in football. Schools like us HHS and Evergreen (poor) schools have to work harder to get kids out. Remember that not to long ago (when my brother played @ HHS) they won less than 10 games in the four years he was there. We have become a competitve program over the last 3-4 years making the post seson every year, but we need to win some big games to get considered a top team in this area.
Terry T-Wolf is Let’s Get Along, Old Dog, Heritage Baller, and….who knows? Ridiculous, dude. Again, look at the scores from the previous Shrine Games. And please do not tell me that these teams were even! That one statement alone about best from the west was an absolute joke! The east was stacked and everyone knew that! Terry T-Wolf, Let’s Get Along, Old Dog, Heritage Baller, you are the same person and the sad thing about it is I think YOU are a coach.
Egreen…they ran the same play like 40 times a game..
MVHS – nope, only about 8 to 10 all year. And remember thats only 1 year of learning a new offence. Wait until this year….oh there is gunna be a-lot-a dashed hopes and broken hearts when EVERGREEN is done.
Go Big Green!
haha wow so cocky…and i am almost positive you ran that weird super power play too much to be documented. If you dont know that then you didnt play football at evergreen. I played at mt view and that was pretty much the play we needed to stop to get you guys all messed up. and im pretty sure we did that
does 20 to 14 bring back memories?
HHS Fan, I can’t speak for the others but as I stated previously, I coached for a number of years and now get to enjoy the whole regions football programs as an observer.
Reading the statments of many, I think you should just except that know one agrees with your opinion, period! Continuing to call out individuals who have the same opposing opinion only devalues your postings on this site.
OK, HHS Fan, I just watched the 2009 Shrine Game at http://freedombowlclassic.com/2009-full-game-video
I know, a little too much time on my hands this early in the morning!!
The score was 6-3 east at half on a Punt return for a TD. 2nd TD drive started at the 49 after an on-side kick attempt by the west failed, 7 plays (4) to Monk on little swing passes, 3rd TD 8 yrd Drive after a long punt return, 4th TD 28 yrd drive after a pick, Final TD set up by a long Punt return, Total drive 14 yards.
That is 4 scoring drive for a total of 99 yards. Most of the offense was little swing passes to the running back. Special teams was the big reason for any offensive success.
Something else to consider in your accusations for the lack of offense for the East in 2010, I heard the Commentator for the 2009 state that the object isn’t so much about winning but getting everyone into the game. Watching the 2010 game, it seemed like there were different players on the field every couple of plays. That can’t help with rhythm and execution when you are talking about QB/WR timing, OL cohesiveness etc. The QB’s didn’t play well either, Grayson should have performed better knowing the offense and Weller plays in a running offense.
Pretty sure schemes were not the deciding factor in how many points were scored in these 2 particular games, but I wouldn’t expect a “FAN” to truly know about all the “Little” things that go into a football teams success.
The fact that you are on here as a former player bad mouthing you former school says everything I need to know about why Heritage has not made the next step as a program!
“Old Dog”
Keep your pointed comments about programs to yourself. As a fan of Heritage, I do not support the opinions of others on this site however, I do support the current program and its current coaches. I’m just one parent of many who have Son’s who play at Heritage now and your last comment, “The fact that you are on here as a former player bad mouthing you former school says everything I need to know about why Heritage has not made the next step as a program”!
You might as well say what you really mean and while you are at it, since you have coached in the area before, let the football community know who you are so that your not hiding behind a screen name big guy.
Go TWolves!
You know, these arguments have nothing to do with the article. How did we get so off topic?
I agree with Skyguy. I would much rather talk about these teams, and I can’t wait for the Camas-Skyview game at Doc Harris.
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HS Football Fan, my apologize. Either I wasn’t clear or you misunderstood my statement, “The fact that you are on here as a former player bad mouthing you former school says everything I need to know about why Heritage has not made the next step as a program”, meaning that there are some player not buying in to what the coaches are doing.
If you read the rest of my postings, I am making an attempt to actually defend your program. HHS Fan seems to feel the system that is being run and some of the current coaches are not helping the program make the next step. It is a coaches job to coach, and a players job to play and execute the plan.
Here are some more comments from Your HHS Fan: “The Shriner Game, which had the best seniors and with an absolutely loaded offense proved the inadequacies of that offense. No running game, no ball control. The results won’t change. BTW, the d-coordinator is from Prairie, so gimme a break.” Does that sound like support?
So, assuming that the lack of a Union v. Camas game isn’t a just a big joke (which it is in a certain sense), are we all in agreement that Skyview v. Camas is the regular season game to see?
As far as I see it, Skyview at Camas IS the game of the year. However Skyview at Union week 9 possibly for a 4A championship will be a great game as well. Kelso has a tough road, but a week 9 game at Camas could be for the 3A championship. There are a lot of big games early in the season this year. CR @ Camas, Kelso @ CR, Camas @ MV, Heritage @ Skyview… all big league games in the first 4 weeks.
Anyone know about the mv qb situation? How good is this kid?
HHS Fan, You caught me! I am Let Get Along as well. Tried to get people on here to get serious about their comments and support them with Facts. Switched to Terry to show support for Heritage. No, I am not a coach, just a loyal and interested fan who may know a bit more about football than the average fan and that knows what “Fan” means. A true fan is never a realist, always and optimist. You may have doubts but never voice them in a public forum such as this when traditionally there is no support for Heritage here anyways.
CHSbleachercreature , (awesome name by the way)
Apparently the QB Ryan Hansen had quite a bit of playing minutes last year and did pretty good. I can only assume that he has improved from there.
I’m done with the bickering back and forth. It was fun for a minute there, but got a little too heated. I’m ready to see Heritage take the next step and I am looking forward to seeing them play this season.
That’s all I wanted in the first place, Go T-Wolves!!
MVHS Athlete – Cocky? Nope, only stating a fact! Whoooohooo you learned the couple plays that last years team ran… good job!…
And yes I have never played football at Evergreen. I have watched the team transform from a learning team to a team that is mastering the new options on offence. Defence is another case.. Coaching was the problem last year and will be the solution this year.
Cocky? Nope! Not at all. Confident agains MV and your old team… Oh Ya!
Dude evergreen has probably been the most cocky team on this website. Until you guys actually start winning games and going to the playoffs i suggest that you just stop. I have read so many comments about how amazing evergreen is and it just makes me sick because first of all they havent been good the last 2 years and second of all no other school even comes close to how much crap you guys talk. Walk the walk before you talk the talk. You cant talk if you have nothing to back up your statements
Technically speaking EHS is the only school to ever have “walked the walk”. And I do agree that until early September we won’t really know anything. Everything is pretty much speculation and theorycrafting.
MVHS Athlete it seems like ur the only person that ever talks trash about evergreen
What have they done to walk the walk?
DC is talking about the 2004 Evergreen team that went 14-0 and won the 4A state championship. They are the only school to walk the walk, aka win a state title. We know the kids on this years Evergreen team were not on that team, but his point is that “walking the walk” is winning state, and only the kids on the ’04 EHS team have done that, so no team should be talking on the site if they have had to first “walk the walk”. We will find out soon enough (9/3/10) who is better MV or EHS. Until then both teams fans can talk all they want.
Jeez Bryan, what where you doing up at 1 in the morning? haha
Regardless of Opinion, Camas, Union and Skyview are the teams to beat in 3A/4A. Until they go down, no one else should talk too much. You can hope and wish, but beat one of those schools first.
frankie – I have a 4 mo baby boy, along with my wife and 3 older children. Most of the time for me the best time to get work done is well after midnight.
Alright well good point. But i am really only talking about the last couple years after this website was created and people started commenting on everything. i have just noticed that there seems to be way more evergreen players or fans commenting about how amazing their team is compared to say skyview and river to name a few. They havent done anything in the last 2 years that gives them the right to talk a bunch of non sense on this website if they have nothing on the field to back it up in these last 2 years
Ok I was just curious once I saw it say 1am. Sorry if it was offensive.
not offensive at all. The funny thing is that my settings were off by an hr. That was actually 2am. But I just fixed it, so thanks for bringing it up.
Oh ok haha. and back to football
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