Union Titans #3 In TNT Preseason 3A Football Poll
Written by Bryan Levesque on August 26, 2009
The Union Titans are ranked #3 in the TNT Preseason 3A Football Poll
The Tacoma News Tribune has released its Preseason 3A football poll and the Union Titans are ranked #3.
Union is behind only Bellevue and Lakes. The Titans were ranked #2 by the Seattle Times, and by CoachesAid.com earlier this week. In both of those polls, Bellevue was #1 and Lakes was #3.
The News Tribune said it placed Lakes ahead of Union due to the fact that the Lancers have nine players with scholarship offers from Division-I schools.
The Camas Papermakes, who landed at #7 in the CoachesAid.com poll are listed as one of 6 teams “next”.
CLASS 3A
1. Bellevue 14-0
2. Lakes 12-1
3. Union 13-1
4. O’Dea 8-3
5. Liberty 9-3
6. Mount Spokane 6-5
7. Glacier Peak 5-5
8. Kennedy 9-2
9. Ferndale 11-1
10. Peninsula 7-3
Next: Camas, Capital, Enumclaw, Juanita, Meadowdale, Timberline
Read More – The Tacoma News Tribune
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Lakes had better talent than Union last season. Union 28 Lakes 7 FINAL!
So, this season, same kids, same coaches. Why will this time around be any different? Union v Bellevue rematch. Book it!
yes it should be Bellvue and Union again in the final. When you draw your players form the greater Seattle or Vancouver area you have a huge advantage over the schools who actually require that their players are from within their respective school boundaries. Bellvue has built its program by bringing in athletes from all over the seattle area and Union is doing the same thing. Its called CHEATING……
Rocko… YOU DONT KNOW!
Rocko is completely right. Bellvue has been good for a while now because all the good players from the Seattle area are brought in to play for them, Union is doing the exact same thing. Everyone makes a huge deal about how good Union is, thats because they’re pulling as many good players from all over Vancouver to play for them. And yes it is called CHEATING!
Rocko and Greg…..where is your proof that Union is bringing all the good players from ALL OVER Vancouver? Are you aware that Union is a new high school and the boundaries changed in that area to pull STUDENTS from Mt View and Evergreen? Is that what you call “pulling” all the good players from ALL over Vancouver? Whatever! Unless you have proof to back up your crap talk….don’t talk!
My son plays for Union, and No they do not cheat by bring in outside players from other areas. It is a school boundary team only, All of the starter that I know of are home grown, and they all played junior football together in the area, not recruited. The remarks by others that they cheated are unfounded and not based on any facts. Last year it was a bunch of juniors and a few seniors that played as a complete team. That is how they won. It was a dream season and the teams that lost to Union, will always remember the Titans as a unified team.
when union opened their new high school they got all the football studs from the area. your trying to tell me thats just the way the boundaries were drew up, just so happend that all the football studs were now in the union boundary? bury your heads in the sand a lttile farther, it’s the Bellvue way.
Are you kidding me?
James Monk, Kyrell Hudson, Ashtin Miller, Ashton Clark, Garret Grayson, Steven Forgette, Cameron Pape, and Michael Gaspar
Thats just to name a FEW of the players from the Evergreen School District that went on to be All GSHL, All Reigion or All State.
Ya your right… Union stole ALL the talent.
I hope you caught the sarcasm
union doesnt take teh talent form the other schools.. EVERY school in the district and area has kids there that dont belong.. cale and his staff doont go ask kids to play. they are content and can win with whoever they have. thats what they have to do thats just teh kind of coaches they are. plus they are so busy they wouldnt have the dang time. simple facts are people will follow success. for years kids were jumpin into evergreeens program cuz they win. people want to be apart of winning programs. this is true in any case. and as long as the paperwork is legit.. you can play anyhwere.
whats funny is how all this hoop-lah oer union is going on because so many people despise the titans. but people seem to be looking the other way when one of the best athletes from the prairie transfers in to another city to play football. tyler fisher at camas now… and nobody is throwin hissy fits about that.. sounds real fair to me??? (sarcasm)
I have been involved with this team since Union opened it’s doors, you look at what the coaches did at Evergreen, they have brought that winning expectation to Union.
If I caught our coaches cheating, I would be the first to turn them in, our Boy’s work extremely hard all year, and our coaches expect a lot from them and have them prepared.
Now I have no idea about Bellevue, but when you win there will always be accusations of cheating, get the facts first and maybe get your kid’s off the couch, and off the cheeto’s, teach them unselfish teamwork, have great coaching, and yes you to will be accused of cheating.
Everyone, have a great season!
Simple, new area ,new neighborhoods , new school, younger families with children move into the new neighborhoods,
the talent pool gets bigger
Older families, maybe less capable of moving with older kids stay in the old neighborhoods talent pool shrinks
This is the same smokescreen that some people tried to throw up last season. Hollow accusations with no proof – just trying to throw mud on the Union program.
There aren’t any kids on this team who are bending the rules – there are a few kids whose parents are divorced, and they use the address of the parent in the Union boundary – they have the right to do that under the district and WIAA rules. There is one kid who gets a boundary exception because his dad coaches – that’s it. If Union wasn’t winning and getting a lot of attention – the green eyed monsters wouldn’t be taking these shots at them.
Coad lives in Evergreen boundaries
bottom line, kids go there to play football, they find ways to bend the rules to make it legal, but its still BS and is unfair to the schools who do not allow that or do not have a metro population to work with. Bellvue of the south, enjoy your success.
What about Caleb Piland going to four different Middle Schools to recruit kids. He made appearances at Shahala, Wy’east, Pacific and Cascade. Now tell me how this slick salesman accomplished that. Dare we say Daddy gave him Permission.
Cale is a genious and his support staff is the greatest. He has revolutionized high school football in SW Washington. He is a rule bender not breaker.
ALL THE COACHES SHOULD GO VISIT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, THATS THE SMART THING.
THEY SHOULD ALSO VISIT THE CCYF TEAMS AND THE POP WARNER TEAMS THAT THE WAY YOU BUILD PROGRAMS IN THE LONG RUN FOR THE LONG RUN.
Coaches should only go to CCYF teams and middle schools that are in the boundary of their respective school. Not go out and poach other schools kids. Now that is illegal recruiting. Especially when a certain coach brought lunch to students outside his boundary. Did the Boosters pay or was it on his own dime.
Cale is no genius. The Evergreen High School program was built from the ground up by John Eagle. Cale just happened to take over at the perfect time when Evergreen was loaded with talent and the program was peaking because of Eagle. That state championship by Evergreen really belongs to John Eagle more than it does Cale. Look what eagle has done at Camas since he took over. If Camas knocks off Union this year (which is very realistic) then you will have to rethink the genius comment. I will say this too. Everyone gives Cale the credit but without line coach Rego they never get to the state championship. You can say the same about their “d” coordinator Mr. Frisch. Excellent coaches who don’t need Cale to be great.
Hey “Mr. j”, High School coach’s should only visit the middle schools that feed into their high school’s boundary lines PERIOD! Anything else is wrong as that coach is treading on another coach’s kid’s. I believe there is a rule within the district that coach’s must follow in regards to this. When Union opened up, their varsity girl’s basketball coach was talking with girls who were in the Mountain View and Heritage boundary and telling them to transfer to Union. That was completely wrong but now that coach is gone. Thank God…
So what IF Union is cheating…. the winning teams are always cheating right?Kids and their arm chair QB fathers are runing to Union just because they are winning Not because they think Cale is this great coach. It’s hard to loose with the talent he has. It’s more important for them to ride the coat tails of someone elses sucess then try to create their own. It takes heart to stay at your old school and put in the hard work to make yourself and your team better…..It takes no heart to jump to a program that is alrerady winning and call yourself a Titan. They have over 100 kids in the program maybe a 3rd of them will play on Friday. Of the kids that are left some will hold dummies and that will be there job all season some wil not even get in to practice, but If Union happens to win state they will get a patch for their letter jacket .
I hear people saying Cale is an amazing football coach……now Cale is a very good coach but if Union was no the team they are would you still send your kid to Union to get coached by this amazing coach or good find another winning team. My guess is the ladder….
You people that allow your kids to move schools because of a “sports Program” are setting kids up for failure…….the real world doesn’t work like that……
Lets be real maybe 30 kids in Clark County will play football at the next level next year. You should be worrying about the classroom not the football field.
BIGBODY I AGREE, BUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS ARE SPLIT IN THE BOUNDRIES HALF GO HERE, A QUARTER HERE, ANOTHER QUARTER THERE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO.
ALL THE COACHES SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND CCYF THAT HOW THE KIDS GET BETTER.
AS FOR TELLING THEM TO TRANSFER, I DONT THINK ANYONE IS THAT STUPID.
THE HERRITAGE GIRLS BASKETBALL COACH HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAMS FOR YEARS AND THEY TRANSFER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IF YOU HAD A CHANCE AT A BETTER OPORTUNITY WOULDNT YOU
Afanoffootball
YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT THE KIDS AT UNION WERE WINNING WAY BEFORE UNION WAS AROUND
THE MOST PART OF THOSE KIDS HAVE BEEN PLAYING TOGETHER SINCE THEY WERE IN 4TH GRADE ON THE SAME CCYF TEAM ON THE SAME SOCCER TEAM ON THE SAME BASKETBALL TEAM EVEN BASEBALL
IN THE OFF SEASON THEY PLAYED ON THE SAME CHURCH LEAGUE FLAG FOOTBALL TEAM
THOSE KIDS WIN AT EVERYTHING THEY DO. THEY DONT NEED UNION TO KEEP WINNING
WINNERS WIN ANYWHERE THEY GO
AS FOR FOR TH”SETTING THE KIDS FOR FAILURE” YOUR WRONG THE REAL WORLD DOES WORK THAT WAY, IF YOU CAN MOVE YOU MOVE, IF YOU CAN AFFOR IT YOU BUY IT, IF A BETTER JOB COMES ALONG YOU TAKE IT AND IF YOU CANT AFFORD YOU PUT IT ON CREDIT
The problem with the Cale Character taking kids that arent his from middle schools is that they may have been back-ups on his Union team, but starters at another school. Thus, teams like MT. View start what would be 2nd stringers because Cale took what would of been their first string. Anytime you take another schools kid, you take away depth and that really can hurt in football. From what I have gathered speaking to Parents, no Wy’east or Cascade kids should ever be in a Union boundary. Those are direct feeders to MT. View and Evergreen respectively, like Covington directly feeds to Heritage. So why is the Cale Character making appearances trying to recruit kids when the kids at those middle schools have no business going to Union. Shady. Thank god he has a Subway punch card to take care of all those recruiting lunches.
A kid doesn’t cross the boundary line on their own. The parent has to go to a lot of work to make that happen. Whether a kid is being recruited or not, it is the parent that should set the example and tell them that they are not transferring just to play sports.
There will always be someone telling you the grass is greener on the other side. The parents who allow their kids to switch are the ones blowing it. It’s just high school sports and if they lead their kids to believe that it is of any lasting significance then they are essentially telling their kids that there is not a whole lot for them after high school.
Best of luck to all teams this year. I hope all the kids can have a positive experience.
my friend was forced to go to union from evergreen he didnt play football but id imagine that they would pull the best future players from mtn view evergreen hud bay possibly even camas…. but seriously think abouit it a new high school pulls students from all the surrounding schools and suddenly there sports program is good hmmmmm
its the same reason why jesuit is so good they recruit
Jesuit is a private school. They have no boundaries. They can recruit anyone and anywhere they want. In public schools, you have to get boundary exceptions or move. Union is a great school, not just a football program. It already has a great reputation for academics as well as great kids. It’s all a part of the package. I don’t think a coach has to do much recruiting. They built it (the school/ the program) they came.
And a word for the Union coaching staff…. It takes a great team of coaches to pull any group of kids together to work as Union did to accomplish what they did in the time they did. Give credit where credit is due. Let’s see if they can do it again this year!
The recruiting is not an issue with the coaching or the school it is an issue for the parents of the kids. I am talking about the parents who fill out the paper work that states where the child lives. Coach’s sre not the ones who fill this paper work out. If a athlete is at your school as a coach you play them. The parents are the ones to blame not the kids or the coaches.
the parents can fill out all the paper work they want, but the school and district still have to approve it, so who is responsible? or should we say irresponsible?
Right, and the school is going to run the risk of penalty with WIAA… can we please get past this subject someday? If there is a question about an individual, I suspect the coach & administration would not be willing to risk exposing the program AND possibly their careers – DUH!! All this blather is idle speculation based on heresay…not interested. Do you really believe that these individuals with careers and family’s are running around blatanly breaking rules without fear of any kind of reprecussion? I gurantee one thing, if there are boundary exceptions they are scrutinized and lots of people are involved providing a check & balance system to stop any kind of unscrupulous behavior by some out of control rogue coach…get real, people…sick of hearing about this
knute, how far can you see with your head buried so deep in the sand?
I can see just fine, thanks…. I offer a reasonable debate & I get my hyperbole. The one thing that every one of you conspiracy theorists lack is one shred of a fact. Go back & review the girls softball issue where Union self-reported a potential problem immediately to WIAA. The problem was an unsigned document by the mother who moved into the district after a divorce. People, it’s not happening so please move on with your lives & stop trying to tear down something positive that is happening in our community and with our kids.
Props to you KNUTE !!! There is a lot of talk on here but the best evidence anybody can provide is a player who has already graduated who got a boundary exception last year. And that was done by the rules — but partisans of his former school just don’t like the fact that he decided his best future was at Union.
I guess if you can’t beat the TITANS on the field, talk smack on a blog to make yourself feel better.
Wait? step back here. isn’t it odd the teams in question are the ones winning? and aren’t they kinda questioned by the losing teams?
Heres the facts, Union doesn’t recruit, cuz its illegal. Bellevue doesn’t either. Bellevue trains hard and well, Union does too. Both teams have talent and that happens. Evergreen had talent and owns a state championship. there used to be a time where mountain view would beat evergreen, and if i am not mistaking they did last year. heritage has promise this year. skyview won the 4a division last year. Camas won regionals two years ago, against union. Its called high school. its called teams change every 4 years.
I go to union, and i have grown up with their team. They all have lived, and played together in ccyf, or at other high schools since they could hold a freaking ball. They were practically a team before they came to union.
So, to all those people who say students are sent to union to play, if your kid is good at something, what you gonna do about it? Ask Yourself that before you second guess parents who try to have there kid moved to a different school. It happens when kids go to private school, like jesuit. Parents of art kids, many push to send there kids to VSAA (vancouver School of Arts…). Intelligent kids sometimes transfer to columbia river for International Baccalaureate (IB) classes. Marching Band is only offered at evergreen, so many kids get boundary exceptions for that. Union and heritage have State championship Choir programs, so kids who sing often try to go to either to become more involved in that. So if one kid has a talent at football and decides skyview is better for him than ridgefield, or Union is better than Mountain veiw, or bellevue is better than another seattle team, why is that wrong? I went to evergreen for marching band. I am in union choir now. one of my very good friends tranferred from ridgefield to skyveiw . An old buddy of mine wanted to do International Baccalaureate (IB), and he left for columbia river. I have a friend of mine felt jesuit was better for his skills than tigard high. Its high school
Amen Asa–
And what about the Evergreen players that just went to Heritage and Mountain View because the new coach has a different game plan they don’t feel fits their style…. were they recruited?? Quit pointing fingers and enjoy the game! It’s supposed to be fun! And, give the kids and coaches credit for their sacrifice, hard work and talent. Just let the kids play!
asa, thank you for letting us in on the super secret to Bellvues success (conditioning) now the rest of us shmucks can get up to speed by just working a little bit harder. are you kidding me right now? there was a article in the tacoma news tribune a few years back about bellvue. one of their state championship teams had 30+ players who were from out of distirct. now thats how you build a program, that and a whole lotta Bellvue bucks=state championships. stick to what you know (marching band) and runs some extra wind sprints so that maybe you guys can be the best too.
Im glad you read what I said Do What UDo.
Since I totally said I was in marching band (read again, I GO TO UNION) and that the secret to bellevue is simply training.
In all honesty I have no clue what bellevue is doing, but I can guess they aren’t cheating since its ILLEGAL, and they are a STATE FUNDED INSTITUTION, which means if they are doing something wrong, the state is. So my guess is they aren’t. Thats common sense.
My point wasn’t on bellevue anyway, so read what else I said again. My point was some people go to certain schools to become the best they can be at something, and thats not bad. So thanks for pointing out I don’t go to bellevue, and I don’t know everything about football. What I do know:
Union doesn’t cheat.
Kids wanna go to schools that they can achieve great things at.
P.S. Bellevue can’t get extra funding to recruit students for football. All schools receive funding based on academic achievement and size. It’s called the no child left behind act. So guess what, maybe they do train better? Maybe Union does?